True Romance: Mom Uses Polyamory To Keep Marriage Exciting, Man Sleeps With Ex's Daughter & Dad, Son Date MILF

Welcome to the latest edition of True Romance With SeanJo.  Last night, I set myself up for romance by putting together a couple of end tables with a preschooler who wanted to "help."

That turned into him getting hold of a piece of one of those white foam things used for packing.  Of course, his version of helping involved breaking that foam thing into a million pieces.

So add taking out the vacuum and cleaning up the foam to the list of other cleanup duties from putting together the two end tables.  That's how you set the mood for some true romance or maybe finally schedule that vasectomy.

Either way, I'm here, and I'm ready to go.  Per the regularly scheduled programming for Thursday afternoons, we've got some interesting true romance topics to take a deep dive through.  

Last week we had a cougar handing out tips for dating younger men, a touching story of a man's fiancee helping his dad find love again, a reader's true love story and the whole 1 in 3 people who say they wouldn't marry their spouse if they had it to do all over again.

This week we have a loving wife and busy mom using polyamory to keep the spark alive, a man who gets revenge on a cheating ex by sleeping with her daughter, a father and son dating the same MILF, and a reader submission laying out a strong case for why they wouldn't remarry their soon-to-be former spouse.

Remember I want to hear from you.  If you have a true romance story you want to share or if you want to comment on anything, send them my way at sean.joseph@outkick.com.

Busy mom uses polyamory to keep her marriage exciting

Let's get started with a busy mom of three who also happens to be a content creator, accredited sex educator and life coach.  Talk about an interesting bio.

Now she wasn't always a content creator and sex educator, but she's put in the work over the last few years and what she's learned she's managed to implement in her own life.  The results speak for themselves as she's managed to make her marriage more exciting in the process.

It turns out the whole being with one person thing after getting married is more of a suggestion to Alice Lovegood - now that's a name you can trust - and her husband.  Once they figured that part out, they were able to really fall in love with one another.

That math doesn't seem to add up here, but I'm not an accredited sex educator and life coach with a name that lets you know that she knows what she's talking about.  I'm just here with an open heart ready to learn like everyone else.

"Through my learning to become a sex educator and kink practitioner, and then later opening our relationship and discovering polyamory, we completely transformed our sex life and relationship," Lovegood told the Daily Star, "and are now more in love and connected than in our previous 10 years together."

I forgot one part of the equation earlier.  She's a sex educator, a life coach, and a kink practitioner.

Now it's all coming into focus here.  These two are putting the miner's helmets on and doing some exploring in between dropping the kids off at school and baseball practice.

Most people don't have the energy for all of that.  But if the discussions about what's for dinner and whose turn it is to attend the parent-teacher conferences are cutting it for you anymore, consulting a kink practitioner could get your marriage back on track.

If anyone has or knows someone who has come close to anything like this, I want to hear all about it sean.joseph@outkick.com.

Man sleeps with his cheating ex's daughter

From a loving wife doing all she can to make her marriage work to a guy who was cheated on more than 20 years ago and got revenge by sleeping with his ex's daughter.

This is a story of revenge more than two years in the making by a now 45-year-old man who knew he was the asshole when he took to the subreddit Am I The Asshole and told his story.  He did it anyway and for that we offer up our thanks.

He starts off by explaining that 24 years ago his then fiancee Ella, 20 at the time, told him that she was pregnant.  He was excited about the prospect of being a dad and the two started planning to hold their wedding when their child was two or three so that the child could be in the wedding.

Roughly seven months in, his friend told him that the child wasn't his.  He explained, "When she was about 7 months pregnant my world shattered.  A "friend" (lets call him Luke) told me that the child was his and not mine.  This lead to a physical fight and Ella took his side."

The man and his fiance ended their relationship, and she moved in with his friend.  He wanted a paternity test before completely cutting ties.  Multiple tests were conducted after the child, a girl, was born, and they confirmed that he wasn't the father.

He moved away and she and Luke lived happily ever after, for a few years anyway.  That brings us to a few weeks ago when work brought this guy back to his hometown for a couple of weeks.  

During his stay, he ran into his ex-fiance and her now 23-year-old daughter at what he described as "an impromptu school reunion."  They exchanged pleasantries, but he was in no mood to catch up with his ex.

Nicky had other plans.  When her mom left, she made her way over to his table to talk.  She knew about what had gone down between them decades ago and wasn't a fan of her mom's either.

That's because, as it turns out, his old pal Luke wasn't her father.  A fact they learned thanks to 23andme when Nicky was 7.  Her real dad had already passed away and Luke sent the two of them packing when he learned the truth.

"I asked her why she told me all of this," he said.  "She said that I am someone who would understand this betrayal.  And she is a product of that betrayal.  She does not expect anything from me, she just needed someone to talk to that would understand."

The two built up a relationship of sorts over the betrayal at the hands of the man's former fiancee.  They met for drinks over the next several days at the bar in the hotel he was staying at while in town.

Then, before you know it, the two of them were hooking up.  He had exacted a bizarre form of revenge on his cheating ex-fiancee.  Her daughter, on the other hand, had more in store.  She wanted her mother to know about it.

"We took a picture together, clearly in bed, clearly naked but covered by sheets, and she sent it as a one time view picture to her mother via Instagram message with the caption: 'I can finally call him daddy,' he said.

This obviously healthy way of dealing with the situation ended up in a big fight between the mother and daughter.  Man, there are some people having a lot of fun out there.

sean.joseph@outkick.com

Dad and son date the same MILF

There's a new season of MILF Manor on the way and a new twist to the reality dating show.  Young men in their 20s will now be competing with their dads for the MILFs, who range in age from their 40s to 60s.

This after a season where each of the MILFs were dating each other's sons.  The younger men will start bonding with the older women, then have their dads show up to start dating the same women.

"It was a lot of emotions at once," Joey, 21, told the NY Post. "Everyone was obviously shocked.  But I was also kind of excited.  Like me and my dad, we hang out.  Honestly, it gave me something to look forward to."

The son being all for his dad dating the same woman is one thing, but dad's going to be the voice of reason here, right?  Not exactly.

Joey's dad, 54-year-old Anthony, has been divorced for seven years now and while he was surprised to learn about the dating arrangement, he's all for it.

"It really took me by surprise, because we were thinking we were going on two separate dating shows….when I walked in and I saw Joey, I was like, ‘Oh my God!,’" said dad.

"I’m not going to talk bad about last season at all.  But, I think this was a little classier.  Even though it was still a crazy twist, it was more acceptable because it was father and son."

There's nothing classier than a dad in his 50s dating the same woman as his son, who is in his 20s.  Let me know if you think I'm wrong about that, but I'm with Anthony here on that.

If I had to take a wild guess about how this much classier season ends up, I would guess that at least one father and son end up in a relationship with the same woman.

sean.joseph@outkick.com

Would you remarry your spouse, HELL NO!!!

• Anonymous from Northern Virginia:

Hi Sean,

This is my burner email and responding to the 1-in-3 question.  That answer is a firm HELL NO!!

My marriage ended a few years ago, but not completely divorced, YET.  There's a huge stigma I've had to work through and overcome my fears.  That said, there were warning signs I ignored years ago and in hindsight should have called the whole thing off, I'm sure I'd be happier and would have had a different life experience all together. 

I'll say I have some beautiful children, but at what cost.  I've had two children stay in mental hospitals due to suicidal ideation or an active attempt to take their lives and still bear the emotional scars from that.  Their mother is so toxic that when the school asked them, "should we call your mother?"  Both said, "NO! Call my Dad!"  One of them actually listed her on the DO NOT ADMIT list for the mental hospital.

My life coach or therapist (if I'm in his state of practice) stated to me, "Why is she doing this?  It's like she's eating her own young!"

The sad part with her is she blames everyone else for the problems and refuses to look at herself or apologize for her actions.  Another friend stated, "The entire time you both were down here (living in another state) she always said, "he this!" and "he that!" and never humbled out and took responsibility.  Worse, we both went to numerous marriage workshops and counselors, only to fail.  I look back and can honestly say that I feel she sabotaged any progress or attempts to improve the relationship.  It's sad.

This is not to state she's 100% to blame, I've had my issues, mistakes, and am slow to change.  But I've changed and made progress, which my life coach and church leaders have seen.  I've struggled though a lot, failed a lot, but still making progress.

I've had several discussions with my children telling them, "I'm sorry for arguing so much with your mother.  The entire time, I was seeking resolution and move forward, not to win the argument.  But I could never find resolution with your mother.  I tried, but she kept arguing."

This linked article I've read, re-read slowly, and re-read it taking notes on myself asking "How did I...?" or "How am I...." it was hard and as a lot of times I could only point the finger at my spouse, but I honestly felt I was honest with myself.  Please read it yourselves and maybe you'll find useful stuff from it, IT'S GOOD.

The sad thing for men and women who are rejected by their spouse is wondering, "Am I worth loving?" "Am I attractive to another?"  "Am I capable of pleasing another intimately?"  "Can I emotionally connect with another?"

I recently had an encounter with a woman that was absolutely amazing and answered these questions I listed above.  It was an experience I had not felt in well over a decade.  Think of the best sex you've experienced where you and another absolutely connected with each other that it was nearly transcendental.  That experience wasn't sex, it is "making love."

https://getpocket.com/explore/item/every-successful-relationship-is-successful-for-the-same-exact-reasons

Lastly, I saw the pics of that Couger.  She's attractive, but not my type.  I can say I've seen some women close to her age that look absolutely fantastic and it's obvious they take care of themselves.  More men and women need to do the same.  I weigh less than what I did graduating high school and am in better condition today than when I graduated, and I'm in my mid 50s!

Time to split and work out!  Thanks for reading and take care.

SeanJo:

Thanks for reaching out Anonymous in Northern Virginia.  That seems like a less than ideal situation.  From what I gather, he's not the only one who wouldn't run this marriage back if they had an opportunity to do so.

Good luck to everyone out there.  That's all for this week's edition.  Let me know what you think about any of these tales of true romance and send any of your own that you'd like to share to sean.joseph@outkick.com.

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Sean is a cubicle life escapee and proud member of OutKick's Culture Department. He enjoys long walks on the beach, candlelit dinners, and puppies - only one of those things is true.